In this 27th episode on surviving abuse, homelessness, & poverty to mission driven success...
🎯 The Genesis of 'Think Unbroken: How Michael Anthony turned personal adversity into a global mission.
🎯 Breaking the Cycle: The importance of ending generational trauma and how to take the first step.
🎯 Mindset Mastery: Unveiling the 'Unbreakable Mindset' that fuels resilience and transformation.
🎯 The Alchemy of Pain: How suffering can be a catalyst for growth and change.
🎯 CEO of Your Life: Why taking full responsibility for your actions is the cornerstone of personal and professional success.
🎯 The Power of Vulnerability: How opening up can lead to deeper connections and greater impact.
🎯 Strategies for Resilience: Practical tips and exercises to build a resilient mindset.
🎯 Quantum Leaps in Personal Development: How small changes can lead to exponential growth.
🎯 The Future of 'Think Unbroken': Upcoming projects and how you can get involved.
In this riveting episode, our guest, Michael Anthony of Think Unbroken, shares a raw and unfiltered account of their life journey, from a tumultuous childhood marked by abuse and poverty to achieving remarkable success. Despite facing numerous setbacks, including drug addiction and financial ruin, they managed to turn their life around, becoming a best-selling author, motivational speaker, and successful entrepreneur.
The conversation delves into the power of resilience, the importance of not quitting, and how to leverage one's "dark side" for growth. He emphasizes that rejection and obstacles are not setbacks but stepping stones to greater achievements. Michael also shares his unique perspective on the concept of "authenticity," urging listeners to show up every day and do the hard things that are required for growth.
The episode concludes with a discussion on ending generational trauma and the importance of self-love and self-esteem. Michael's story serves as a testament to the transformative power of resilience and the human spirit.
Key Themes: Overcoming adversity, resilience, personal transformation, leveraging weaknesses, and breaking generational trauma.
Learn More: http://www.thinkunbroken.com @michaelunbroken
[00:00:00] Michael Unbroken: Look, and resilience for people who grew up like me is not an option.
[00:00:03] Michael Unbroken: it's baked in and, I get it because it's super difficult and for some people it takes everything from them. And for some people like me, there's nothing I can't work through.
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[00:01:13] Bethany: I am so excited to have Michael Anthony here with us today. I met him in New York and watched him on stage getting grilled and he was very inspiring. So I'm really excited to have him here today.
[00:01:26] Bethany: And we are also gonna be playing around with seeing what I see intuitively for his business and possibilities there. Or it might be personal. You never know what comes through. I first wanna acknowledge you because you are, you're like, you're huge. You are such an inspiration to so many people already.
[00:01:43] Bethany: Maybe not my audience yet, but they will know your name here in a moment. And yeah, you do have a beautiful story to share. Would love to hear. Maybe the Cliff Notes version of, I'm feeling like the before and after. Or the before and [00:02:00] through of you.
[00:02:02] Michael Unbroken: Yeah, for sure. You know, yeah, we'll, we can go as deep as you want. But the, the highlights are, you know, I, I grew up in the hood super abusive parents, mom, drug addict, alcoholic actually cut off my right index finger when I was only four years old. So multiple surgeries, multiple skin.
[00:02:21] Michael Unbroken: It kind of goes in that old adage, hurt people. Hurt people, right? And I, you know, through doing the work, I look at her childhood and I'm like, yeah, I get it. Stepdad, super abusive. You know, this dude's fucking six foot 4, 2 20, beating up a seven year old. So, you know, a real standup guy. This dude Homeless, a lot of the, my childhood and deeply in poverty.
[00:02:39] Michael Unbroken: I lived with over 30 different families between eight to 12. Got kicked outta high school multiple times, started doing drugs when I was 12, drinking at 13. No high school diploma. I. Still landed a job with a Fortune 10 company. Made a million bucks by the time I was 26. Blew it all. Was 350 pounds, smoking two [00:03:00]packs a day, drinking myself to sleep.
[00:03:02] Michael Unbroken: Car got repoed, 50 grand in debt. Cheating on my girlfriend. Little brother says, never talk to me again. You're not my brother. And I hit rock bottom. And for the last 13 years I've been on my own journey. And in this journey I've been able to, you know, write multiple books, one of them being bestseller speak on some of the biggest stages in the world Coach Thousands of people podcast will do, you know, 2 million downloads this year, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:03:25] Michael Unbroken: But it all just started 'cause I decided to get the fuck out of my own way.
[00:03:29] Bethany: Oh my goodness. So you can hear lots of quantum leaps as this is the Quantum Leap podcast. I would love to dive into the first initial career getting past not having a high school diploma., Oh my gosh. And by the way, I just read the David Goggins book.
[00:03:46] Bethany: Actually I haven't even finished it. Have you read that one?
[00:03:48] Michael Unbroken: Yeah, we grew up 20 minutes away from each other.
[00:03:51] Bethany: Oh my gosh.
[00:03:52] Michael Unbroken: There's something in the water in Indiana, it's toxic.
[00:03:56] Bethany: Oh man. Okay. Yeah. 'cause I'm like, there [00:04:00] seems to be some parallels there.
[00:04:01] Michael Unbroken: Yeah, I get, I get that every now and.
[00:04:04] Bethany: yeah, . So, and like, that was so hard initially to read, like, I was like crying, listening to the beginning because I can't imagine or fathom, you know, going through that experience. And here you are. Whew. Resilient, to say the least.
[00:04:21] Bethany: Of course. And so how did you go from Yeah. The high school diploma to the company?
[00:04:29] Michael Unbroken: Well, you know, look, and resilience for people who grew up like me is not an option.
[00:04:34] Michael Unbroken: you know, it's baked in and, and for some people, you know, look, and, and I get it because it's super difficult and for some people it takes everything from them. And for some people like me, there's nothing I can't work through.
[00:04:47] Bethany: Mm-hmm.
[00:04:48] Michael Unbroken: You know, and when I was, and I really started my first job ever when I was like eight years old. 'cause I was like the weirdness of all this. Like I grew up in the Mormon church and I was a boy scout, [00:05:00] which is super strange, but they like, we would have to go knock doors. As boy scouts to make money for like field trips and, you know, equipment and go fishing and dumb shit like that.
[00:05:11] Michael Unbroken: And so like, I was really in cells from a child. I, I probably knocked a thousand doors as a kid, right? And when I was 12, 13, I started selling drugs. I mean, that's how I got expelled from school. I got caught selling weeded like a idiot because I.
[00:05:28] Michael Unbroken: And then when I was 18, I, I got kicked out of high school again 'cause I had straight F's. I had a 1.1 g p a, I missed 97 days of school. And my, my business teacher, the irony of all ironies was like, I'm not letting you graduate. All the other teachers just let me pass. But this dude, Mr. Bush, I swear to God, he changed my life forever.
[00:05:51] Michael Unbroken: He was like, you're going to summer school. You're not graduating. And in summer school, in my business class, again, irony of all ironies, the teacher [00:06:00] pulls me aside one day, he goes, it's obvious you don't want to be here. I'm gonna give you the diploma. Good luck. Let the streets figure you out. And, and he literally just gave me the diploma.
[00:06:12] Michael Unbroken: And, you know, it's unearned. It's, I don't even know if it's registered. 'cause my high school now has been closed and defunded. I can't even contact them. I tried to, 'cause I wanted to get a transcript, so, you know anyway, I'm. In the summer school the night of or the next day, I get fired from the warehouse job that I'm working at.
[00:06:31] Michael Unbroken: And I'm like putting microchips into motherboards like a monkey all day long. It's the dumbest job ever, and I'm just watching the desperation in people's eyes who are 35, 40, 52, and it's like these people's lives. This is it for them. They have resigned to possibility. I get fired probably because I was stoned and I'm sitting in my car and I'm like, okay, pause.
[00:06:56] Michael Unbroken: Time out, dude. You are not going [00:07:00] anywhere today until you figure out the solution for this. I was like, what is the solution for poverty, for homelessness, for all the things that I was going through, dealing with a mom in and out of rehab, dealing with a grandmother who was at a coma dealing with, you know, all the drugs and alcohol.
[00:07:16] Michael Unbroken: I was doing everything, and I was like, it's money. It's gotta be money. And so I made a declaration of myself sitting in that car. I said, I wanna make a hundred grand a year legally by the time I'm 21. And the legal part was important 'cause I've been in handcuffs more times than I can count. I got family in prison for life, literally to this day.
[00:07:37] Michael Unbroken: And my three childhood best friends have been murdered. I was like, I gotta do something different here. And so I just started just trying to get jobs and the only thing I knew was like fast food and warehouse jobs. I landed a job with a fast food restaurant at 18 and a half years old. I'm in a general manager and training role with [00:08:00] 52 people under me.
[00:08:01] Michael Unbroken: Like I learned leadership real fast.
[00:08:03] Bethany: Wow.
[00:08:04] Michael Unbroken: That was not going to lead me to the path of a hundred grand. And it really sucked. It's a thankless job. I hated every second of it, but I learned so much. And one night I'm having a conversation with one of my friends on MySpace to age myself, and he got a brand new Chevy Tahoe and I'm like, dude, how the fuck did you get a Chevy Tahoe?
[00:08:27] Michael Unbroken: This is 2006.
[00:08:29] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:08:30] Michael Unbroken: He is my age. We used to get stoned and skip school to, I'm like, what is happening here? And he's like, dude, I'm working for an insurance company. And, but I swear to God, I was like, I didn't know that was a thing. But he had showed, it became illuminated for the first time. No one in my family ever put on suit and tie to go to work.
[00:08:49] Michael Unbroken: Everyone worked, warehouse jobs and assembly lines like we're blue collar as the day is long. And I was like, oh my God. That's how. For [00:09:00] the next, basically I think it was like 12 to 16 months, I applied to insurance. And got declined. Time and time and time and time again. Interview. Second interview. No thanks.
[00:09:15] Michael Unbroken: You're not the right fit. You don't have experience. I'm 20, of course, I don't have experience. And then I landed a job with a fucking Fortune 10 company, and as I'm turning 21 years old, I cashed my first check for $10,000. And as I. And of course I went to the mall and I spent it all. Let's be very clear
[00:09:32] Bethany: about that.
[00:09:32] Michael Unbroken: But like after that, it was just like, I'm making 10 grand a month, 15 grand a month, 18 grand a month. Right. And I'm just, I'm like crushing these sales numbers, but it's like a
[00:09:44] Bethany: career,
[00:09:44] Bethany: car or health? Which, what kind.
[00:09:46] Michael Unbroken: it was health. And I was a licensed agent in 48 states working for,
[00:09:52] Bethany: do that with with the record
[00:09:55] Michael Unbroken: I don't have a record. I've never been arrested. I look for what, [00:10:00] for whatever reason, I have a, I had a keen gift of outsmarting the cops as a kid. So no, I, I do not. I'm actually one of the only people in my family who have never been to jail. But I've definitely sat on the curb many times in handcuffs. So, yeah, you know, I just, the, the thing was, I just figured, I was like, if I don't quit, I, I'm gonna figure this out. And that's all I did. I just kept trying. And the insurance window, it only made sense to me because of what my friend had exposed me to.
[00:10:30] Michael Unbroken: And so it was, it was in that space that I, I made the money, but I mean, I, I learned a lot in that window.
[00:10:38] Bethany: When you were told no, which I know has happened a million times probably in your life, what, what did you feel when you were just rejected again? Like, did you have any like thought process? Did it beat you down at all, or you're just like, next?
[00:10:52] Michael Unbroken: Yeah, it was next. It had to be next. It's not that it wasn't defeating at times, you know, to get your second [00:11:00] interview with this insurance agency over here and then they go, ah, we don't think you're the right fit. It's like, fuck man. This happened so many times. But I was also like, like I think that rejection is just a part of my life.
[00:11:13] Michael Unbroken: My parents rejected me, my community rejected me, my schools rejected me. You know, I, I was used to it. I'm not, I'm not, I don't have any issue with being rejected because it doesn't stop me. And I think that the one thing that I've been able to. Really tie myself into is this concept that as long as I don't quit, I can't lose.
[00:11:36] Michael Unbroken: And so that's the same way that I've built a speaking career and the podcast and the books and the coaching, I was just like, whatever, stop me. I dare you to try. And so I do have a, I have a huge chip on my shoulder and I think a lot of people need to leverage that, and a lot of people need to recognize that.
[00:11:55] Michael Unbroken: They've been set up for failure and no context. [00:12:00] Don't cancel me. No. Doesn't always mean no.
[00:12:02] Michael Unbroken: No. Sometimes means you're not good enough yet. No sometimes means you don't have the skills that you need yet. No means wrong vehicle, no means you emailed me at the wrong time. Like there's a guest on my show, Lisa Bilyeu and I talk about this publicly.
[00:12:17] Michael Unbroken: Lisa's very in demand human being. I emailed her team and her 36 times over six months to get her to be on my show.
[00:12:27] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:12:28] Michael Unbroken: This is after I had her husband Tom Bilio on my show the first time I asked him when I'm sitting there having dinner with him. And so it's like, it's just a simple reminder. No, doesn't always mean no, but if you're willing to stop the first time you hit an obstacle, you'll never reach any of your goals.
[00:12:44] Michael Unbroken: And I just have always felt like it. Like here's my thought around really everything that I do in my life. It's like I've been homeless and eight out of trash cans. I don't care if you don't like me.
[00:12:56] Bethany: Yeah. Yeah. So you [00:13:00] love up on the chip on your shoulder, where normally me as an energetic healer, I'm like, we need to remove this.
[00:13:05] Michael Unbroken: But do you though if it serves you, if it's not in your way, like to me, it's this thing where I carry it, not in this way, that it is in a blockage. It is just something I leverage in those times when I wanna quit. When I wanna give up, when I don't wanna do another podcast, another interview, another stage, another airplane.
[00:13:26] Michael Unbroken: It's like, motherfucker, don't you remember where you're from?
[00:13:30] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:13:31] Michael Unbroken: I think that there's a lot of power in that, and it's kind of lever for me sometimes it's just leveraging the dark side. You know, I, I've done all the work, I'm still doing all the work, right in this healing journey, but it's like, you know, so many people quit on themselves when really the thing that they just need to do is recognize who they're.
[00:13:51] Bethany: Mm-hmm. Okay. So you heard it leverage your weaknesses or your chips [00:14:00] Yeah.
[00:14:00] Michael Unbroken: I don't think you have to leverage your weakness. Like I'm not a good accountant, like I don't leverage being a good account
[00:14:06] Bethany: The energetic. So to me, when I see a chip or something like that, like one of my friends to, in, in particular, like, I'm like, okay, what's interesting is to me, it shows up as a contract energetically. So I will, I usually I'll see it and I'll be like, okay, let's read whatever it says, remove it, and then replace it with something else.
[00:14:27] Bethany: So it's almost like, it's like almost like a computer chip. Energetically that I'm putting in like a new program. So that's where I'm like, you're giving me a new perspective because this is powerful.
[00:14:38] Michael Unbroken: I mean, as long as it serves you. That's what it comes down to. If you got a chip on your shoulder and you're an asshole and you're destroying everything in your life, which was me at 18 to 26 years old, well, you might want to question that if you're leveraging it because you're like, this is really hard and it sucks, and [00:15:00]I'm falling down all the time.
[00:15:01] Michael Unbroken: It's like, motherfucker, don't you remember where you're from?
[00:15:04] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:15:05] Michael Unbroken: Don't you know, don't all those people who told you you were gonna be nothing all the times you told yourself you were gonna be nothing, that you didn't keep your promises, that you forced yourself into predicament. You should never have been in that.
[00:15:18] Michael Unbroken: You let yourself down. Like do you want to go back to that? That's how I leverage it, because I sit here and I look at it and I go there. I'm so removed from Michael. At 25 years old, I can't even begin to identify with that human being. And in fact, in my book I wrote like I pulled. That version of me in the backyard and I shot that motherfucker because I was like, I'm never gonna be this person again.
[00:15:42] Michael Unbroken: But there are moments, Beth, they need to know this 'cause we're humans and we, we go back to behavioral patterns that are soothing because when we're in the face of chaos and adversity, what is better than going back to what is known? And when I feel like I'm e edging into the known, I'm like, bitch, [00:16:00] get your shit together. You know what happened last time. Now look, I've, I've done so much work. I, I don't imagine there's a world that I exist in, in which I'm sitting here doing drugs and getting drunk every day and playing video games and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But you never know. And so I just try to leverage that because I think it's important just to be honest.
[00:16:19] Michael Unbroken: I know what happens if I do not stay the course, 'cause I've been there. I lost my brothers. I lost all my money. I lost my health, I lost my relationship. I lost everything. I was at zero, and now I'm not. And so it's like, okay, cool. Can I just acknowledge that, that maybe those decisions then are the reason why I was stuck and that the decisions I leveraged now?
[00:16:44] Michael Unbroken: Well, and this is a, a very I mean, to leverage that dark side and that chip on my shoulder, I mean, that's zero zero 1% of my year. But when it's there, it's like, yo.
[00:16:56] Bethany: Yeah. So is this what drives you [00:17:00] not wanting to go
[00:17:01] Michael Unbroken: What is this? No, no. 'cause I'm beyond that. What, what drives me is like, like literally, okay, so I literally have all of my goals right here written on the back of my phone. I constantly look at it. They're all right here. And the number one that supersedes everything is in generational trauma in my lifetime.
[00:17:19] Bethany: beautiful.
[00:17:20] Michael Unbroken: And, and so between today and that moment, that's what drives me. And it's the micro against that macro that has me show up every day.
[00:17:30] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:17:30] Michael Unbroken: Be a good leader, be an amazing brother. Be, be, be the person I say I'm gonna be, hold myself accountable, lead my teams and my community, and my groups and my clients. Be the person that when I go to bed at night, I'm okay with who I'm, and, and to me, the thing that probably guides me the most is, well, it's probably twofold.
[00:17:51] Michael Unbroken: One, nothing is more terrifying to me than dying with regret. scares the shit out of me. Like the idea that I would [00:18:00] just waste everything in front of me again. Right. And the other side of it is like when I, you know, when we are in silence, when we're in the, the quiet, like that's where the truth appears. in bed, you can't sleep, you're thinking about the thing. It's like I just try to do the thing. The thing, most of the time the thing sucks. You know this. The thing is like, man, this, this, I really don't wanna do this, but it's like you have to, and so I try to operate in that and I think that's, Creating a space of wholeness and truth within oneself that allows you to, people in our industry drop the fucking word authenticity, like, like no other word on planet earth.
[00:18:48] Michael Unbroken: And yet no one's really talking about what that means. And I think being authentic is like dealing with your shit every day, like being who you are, not bending and placating especially, and probably most [00:19:00] importantly, to yourself. And just when, when the game is on the line, go and do it. Stop waiting and blaming and victimhood and shaming and guilting yourself, and it's just like, I don't think life is about doing what you want.
[00:19:15] Michael Unbroken: I don't, I think that's nonsensical. I think life is about doing what is required
[00:19:20] Michael Unbroken: as long as it's in alignment with what you want. Which is the juxtaposition of that, right? Well, it is because like what I, okay, so content, like what I want to do, nothing is better than like getting a stone to eating gummy bears and playing video games all day.
[00:19:35] Michael Unbroken: But how the hell does that help me in generational trauma,
[00:19:37] Bethany: Mm-hmm.
[00:19:38] Michael Unbroken: right? So it's like know thy know thyself. That's what this all comes down to.
[00:19:43] Bethany: Got it. So in the moments of let's say darkness, what gets you out?
[00:19:49] Michael Unbroken: I don't negotiate with myself.
[00:19:52] Bethany: Hmm.
[00:19:53] Michael Unbroken: I don't, if I'm like, this is the thing that must be done today. I go and do the thing.
[00:19:57] Bethany: All right.
[00:19:58] Michael Unbroken: And that's, and [00:20:00] that's like, that has taken fucking 15 years to learn.
[00:20:04] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:20:05] Michael Unbroken: Right? And there's still those moments where it's like, I just don't wanna do it today, but I refuse to go to bed until it's done.
[00:20:13] Bethany: Got it.
[00:20:14] Michael Unbroken: Like, I just refuse it. And I, I think that there's something in that that's very empowering. When my background, look, here's the reality. You don't get to 350 pounds smoking two packs a day, drinking yourself to sleep, and 50 grand in debt because you're trying.
[00:20:30] Michael Unbroken: And so now it's like very simply, I look at life and I go, am I actually doing the things I said I was gonna do? Because that is how I measure my own success. Not the things you wanna do, not the things they tell me to do. Whatever. I'm like, did I show up today? And if I didn't, it's like, I'm still awake.
[00:20:51] Michael Unbroken: It's fucking one in the morning. Go do the thing.
[00:20:54] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:20:55] Michael Unbroken: and I think if you can get to that place of not negotiating with yourself, it's the foundation of [00:21:00] both building confidence and self-esteem. But also, you know, this buzzword about self-love. Like do you really love yourself if you're not showing up? not saying you don't have the days where it's like, take the break.
[00:21:14] Michael Unbroken: I'm in the middle of a break right now. Like honestly like yeah, it's 'cause like I was like, I need to take some time. I need some space for me. I'm only gonna do things that I've already agreed to do and outside of that I'm not doing anything else. And I'm gonna hop on a plane and go to South America for two months and you're not gonna.
[00:21:30] Michael Unbroken: But outside of that being truth, because it came to me in meditation, I asked myself, what is the hardest thing I need to do right now? And what came to me was nothing. I was like, oh, got it. I'm gonna go do nothing. Outside of that, it's like every day you have to show up.
[00:21:48] Bethany: When you say, what is the hardest thing I need to do right now? Is there a so that
[00:21:56] Michael Unbroken: depends.
[00:21:57] Bethany: Okay. Or you're just like,
[00:21:58] Michael Unbroken: It depends. So I, [00:22:00] I meditate in this space of problem solving, not necessarily like my, my Zen, if you will, that comes from working out in martial arts. Like I'm just totally in another planet when I'm in those spaces. When I'm meditating, I'm ideating on like, how do you solve problems? Like how do I create or solve or build or shift?
[00:22:22] Michael Unbroken: And so like if I'm in it, like let's say there's a. Let's say I'm sitting here and the thing that I'm trying to solve for is why do I feel restless, right? I'll just sit there and think about why am I restless? does this come from? What do I need right now to end the restlessness? And then whatever comes to me, I'm going to assume is truth because it's in my mind and no one else's.
[00:22:49] Bethany: Yep. Came through. Love it. Very cool. Well, I felt called to start tuning into you before we got on the call. Let the, I've only, this is only [00:23:00] my second time doing this. On the podcast. I've done it obviously a million times outside of that, but I was like, I just feel like I need to tune in first. So what I saw just is you walking down this path and it was really dark and it was like you were alone.
[00:23:13] Bethany: It was like dusk or something, and you were just like, all in black, which I feel like you probably always wear I'm like, actually I think that's how I saw you. So I was like, ah. I'm like, but that's not really reality. And so what I was seeing is that, that what I got was that that was maybe how you feel inside sometimes or a lot of the time.
[00:23:33] Bethany: Do you feel that way?
[00:23:34] Michael Unbroken: I definitely wouldn't say all the time, but certainly sometimes I think we all feel that way. Sometimes I think life is very isolating and lonely.
[00:23:42] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:23:43] Michael Unbroken: Right. Even, you know, it's funny 'cause you can all, what is the, the proverb? It's sometimes the loneliest person in the room is the one with the most attention, you know, and it's like there's. I mean, first off, I've, I've always been [00:24:00] isolated. I've always been an introvert. Like that is kind of my nature.
[00:24:03] Bethany: Mm-hmm.
[00:24:04] Michael Unbroken: I would say that's, that's not how I feel.
[00:24:07] Bethany: Yeah. . Yeah. So, so what's also really interesting that you just said that, 'cause I'm like, okay, well where, you know, what's the next, you know, evolution of this is like realizing that that is your mind, it's not truth. And that, and then I saw you in a room of people, like you just said, center of attention in the middle.
[00:24:27] Bethany: Like you have tons of people around you, like hundreds and yeah, people are like celebrating you. And so it's really funny that you just said, yeah, the often the most alone person is the one with all the attention. So to me, what that also means is like, obviously you are very vulnerable. You're very vulnerable all the time, even in your posts like dating, you know, but how, how is, how can we get through the, another layer, like there's another layer of like heart in there and [00:25:00] like, I just wanna say gushy, juiciness.
[00:25:03] Bethany: Isn't I'll, I'll turn into business too, but like, I just wanna offer that up
[00:25:08] Michael Unbroken: I think there's always
[00:25:10] Bethany: and I think that's for me too. I can use that as well,
[00:25:14] Michael Unbroken: Well, I think we all can and, and I think there's, I know actually there's always another layer.
[00:25:22] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:25:23] Michael Unbroken: It just, there just is. I saw, do you know who TD Jakes is? So he's a, you would know him if you knew him. He's a, he is a speaker, but he is a pastor and, you know, I'm not religious, but what he said sat really close to home for me and, and because it made sense.
[00:25:40] Michael Unbroken: He says, life is this new levels, new devils.
[00:25:45] Bethany: Mm.
[00:25:46] Michael Unbroken: and that I had the same reaction. I was like, damn, that's good. But, but what sat with me about that was like that is because we're a constant evolution.
[00:25:55] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:25:55] Michael Unbroken: Like, I'm, I'm in an evolution. I look at my life today, I'm very different than a month ago [00:26:00] versus six months ago, and there's a new challenge in front of me.
[00:26:02] Michael Unbroken: There's a, a new depth of understanding. This concept, this theory that propels me every day is know thyself. And even within my own self, there's depths of vulnerability that I'm stepping into, especially with what's in front of me and, and the plans that I have in the very near future. But I've been that way for 13 years where it started with, okay, look, here's context.
[00:26:27] Michael Unbroken: You know more about me in 27 minutes than people who knew me for a decade,
[00:26:32] Bethany: Yeah.
[00:26:32] Michael Unbroken: right? I mean, that partners, girlfriends, friends, whatever. And that thing about me being vulnerable, you know, you see it in what I post, what I create, what I write, how I speak, being on stages, whatever. Like there's even, there's levels of depths that I can't even, like what you see now is 200 leaders, or what is the 200 whatever under the seat, right?
[00:26:53] Michael Unbroken: It's so, we're so deep into the journey and it's like, boom, I hit another wall, let's go unlock it. [00:27:00] Hit another wall. Let's go unlock it. Hit another wall, let's go unlock it. And I think if you're paying attention, like I think if you're really truly in the space of trying to understand who you are, there will always be another door to unlock.
[00:27:13] Michael Unbroken: And I think that the people who will say something against that probably know themselves the least. And I recognize that in myself that there is a necessity. I am driven by it, not because of any other reason than it's my own pure curiosity to go out and figure out who the hell I really am at all, at all levels and capacity.
[00:27:37] Michael Unbroken: And, and I think that when you're willing to do that, actually get to help people more. And you get to help yourself board, you get to really change the, the epigenetics of who it is that you are both energetically and genetically in a quantum space, both forward and backwards in time, across all realms for infinity.
[00:27:58] Michael Unbroken: And that's not just fucking [00:28:00] buzzwords that I think that I'd use to throw around to sound smart. It's because I see it. I'm getting, I'm literally getting ready to go get on a plane and go watch my brother graduate the police academy. And it's like the other one, he's getting ready to become a firefighter.
[00:28:15] Michael Unbroken: My sister's life is totally different and I, and I sit here and I look and I go, what if 13 years ago I wouldn't have got my shit together? They were watching with what is happening for them be happening. And I, and I think that that only comes in the scope of knowing myself because once you know yourself, you can bathe in honesty and the fucking truth will set you free.
[00:28:38] Bethany: So you already have proof that you're gen ending generational trauma is, is working. So good. So good. So beautiful. Would you like me to tune into the business? See what I get? Okay.
[00:28:52] Michael Unbroken: Yeah. I hope it has at the.
[00:28:55] Bethany: All the zeros. Okay, well let's see. What [00:29:00] is on offer for you today? I'm just connecting to truth and mm. So first off, I'm brought to the path again that I saw earlier. However, there is color, so bringing in the color is powerful for you. We keep walking this path. It has, it's just really flowery. And as you were talking earlier, I, I wanted to say, to honor, this was coming through to honor the ballerina in you, so I'm just gonna throw that out.
[00:29:32] Bethany: Yep. You can cough that away or burp it away I usually cough and yawn and all the things as I'm clearing and healing. Okay, so what I see at the end of this path is an arena, like very much a huge stadium, and you are starting at the top and you're walking down towards, I'm like, are you gonna walk into the center walking down? Hmm. What's really [00:30:00] beautiful is every step that you're taking, you're acknowledging that level.
[00:30:03] Bethany: Like you're so present to the people that have shown up to this, which is really beautiful. So you're taking your time.
[00:30:09] Bethany: Okay. You are going into the center of the arena. That's what I figured, but I didn't wanna assume, and you're taking the mic. And you were speaking and people are standing up and bowing, they're literally bowing outta respect for you and your inspiring stories in uplifting this world. So you're already doing speaking, but that's another level. Also in. In what I was seeing earlier with the with you in the middle and everyone like cheering, it was almost like, it was almost like they were chanting it felt like you're leading workshops or are you already leading big workshops?
[00:30:56] Bethany: You are. Okay. 'cause that really feels like that feels like a [00:31:00] genius lane for you. Like, even as I say it, it's like, so I don't know if there's just like another level, but. Putting attention because it's, it's easy as a solopreneur to put attention here, here, here, here, here, here. You know, a million places.
[00:31:14] Bethany: So speaking is definitely your genius lane. And so is is creating these workshops, they feel like two day, two day long workshops that you're creating? Are they three? No, I'm getting two. I don't know how long The ones you've been doing are
[00:31:29] Michael Unbroken: Depends on the one. You know, we have conferences as well as workshops in there. Conferences are a bit longer. Workshops are a couple of days, but they're super immersive. Right. So we're talking about 14 hour days, so
[00:31:43] Bethany: How many do you do a year?
[00:31:46] Michael Unbroken: many.
[00:31:47] Bethany: Okay.
[00:31:48] Michael Unbroken: Yeah, it's, it's, there's a, there's a, there's a big toll, like there's a big cost of energy for those things.
[00:31:56] Bethany: Yes. Yes. So that's what I was gonna say. I'm like, so what I'm getting [00:32:00] is like six a year, but like, just another level of it, they, they feel, and I like, I haven't been to any of yours, but it really feels like just expanding upon that is, is your genius and the stadium type stages. So.
[00:32:16] Michael Unbroken: Yeah.
[00:32:17] Bethany: Nothing really new for you, but maybe a little confirming.
[00:32:20] Bethany: Is there anything else you support him with? I'm just hearing like you are doing amazing. You are so on track. You are so loved and your ancestors are cheering you on. That's the message I just got. Yeah.
[00:32:34] Michael Unbroken: Yeah, it's funny 'cause it's like that's shared this, I, I'm cautious about things that I do or do not say publicly. Not in a negative way, but in a, like, I don't wanna, I dunno, maybe it's a superstitious way, right? But I, I wrote down seven years ago probably. I was like, I'm gonna speak in front of 20,000 people one day.
[00:32:55] Michael Unbroken: But like I'm halfway there because it's like I spoke in front of 10,000 people [00:33:00]with Grant Cardone when he invested into my company, right? And so it's like that, that's very much in alignment with one of the very big goals that I have person, well, professionally, personally, in the future. So I love that.
[00:33:16] Michael Unbroken: I'll let you know. I'll send you an invite when it happens.
[00:33:18] Bethany: Yeah, so good. And how beautiful is that? That's just like a whole nother quantum leap working with Grant. Did you work, did you do his workshops first, or you just met
[00:33:29] Michael Unbroken: I had an, so the short version of that story is I was funnel hacking him because I'd saw the book. Do you know what funnel hacking is?
[00:33:38] Bethany: like figuring out how they're doing it.
[00:33:40] Michael Unbroken: Yeah, exactly. So I just, I bought, I bought his book online, went through his funnel. The book came in, sitting on my desk. I never heard the name before. I was just buying all the books like four years ago. I was like, you're on a book and a Facebook ad. I'm gonna go see what you're doing so I can go do the same thing.
[00:33:54] Michael Unbroken: And I felt called to read the book, which is a very rare thing in my life. I read the book, fell asleep, reading it [00:34:00] next day, decided to listen to the audio, listen to the whole audio in one day. And I was like, whoa, is this guy like, Who is he? What does he do? Does he like teach people? Like what's the deal?
[00:34:09] Michael Unbroken: Found Growth Con, which was I think two weeks away. Go to Growth Con. There's a, like a contest where you can win an opportunity, whatever, to pitch your business in front of. Grant, I. And like his whole panel which was like another two weeks away. I'm like, yeah, sure. I'm gonna a hundred percent win that.
[00:34:28] Michael Unbroken: Like I knew it immediately, like I was like, yep, I already won this. Fast forward two weeks, go speak in front of 10,000 people, 10 other competitors. I crushed them. Leave them in my dust win, and the rest is history.
[00:34:42] Bethany: Amazing. Wow. So divinely led. I love it. So good. Well, in ending, well, first off, do you have any questions for me? Any other questions? Intuitively,
[00:34:55] Michael Unbroken: I love that. I think this is super cool that you're doing this. I think that more people need to be willing [00:35:00] to have some vulnerable conversations like this, and you ask good questions and, and I think in doing so is like to have the willingness to, even though like, all right, I'll give you context. A decade ago, I'd been like, this is woo woo bullshit. Like, don't bring this to me. Right? And it's like you have to be open,, because we're sitting on a rock that happens to just so perfectly be able to sustain life, that if we're tilted one half of a degree, we all die instantly. It's like maybe you should embrace the weird a little bit, even if you don't find alignment with it, which is kind of the same thing I've done with like learning from guys like Grant.
[00:35:46] Michael Unbroken: I don't agree with him on 90% of the way he looks at the world, but we have to stop being dogmatic and step into the unknown because if you're not, you don't have to like people to learn from them. [00:36:00] And, and you don't have to be in complete alignment to learn from them. And if you're willing to be open, even in the moments where you're like, this is weird, you'll, you may get something really beautiful out of it, which, you know, I, I think my, my thoughts about the world and quantum and energy are very different today.
[00:36:17] Bethany: Mm-hmm.
[00:36:18] Michael Unbroken: it started because I was willing to have conversations like this and, and this was really beautiful and I really appreciated it.
[00:36:25] Bethany: Thank you. Yeah. I mean, a lot of times I'll just have the clients, like if they just want an intuitive analysis, I'm like, just send me the company and I'll tune in. So I don't even talk to 'em. I like, I definitely knew more about you going into this, but. This was really beautiful. And you are, you're so inspiring. I'm gonna have to re-listen this myself because you are so inspiring. And one of the questions I always ask the guests are, what are your three keys to Quantum Leap? What would you offer up?
[00:36:52] Michael Unbroken: I, you said, I thought about the TV show from the nineties. As soon as you said that
[00:36:57] Bethany: I wish I've never seen
[00:36:59] Michael Unbroken: I [00:37:00] don't think anyone's ever seen it, but it was on for like 10 years called, literally called Quantum Leap. Three things. One, make your goals so big that they terrify you. But also don't wrap them in time because reality is time's a construct. It's not real. I would much rather have the goal eventually than to wrap myself around.
[00:37:19] Michael Unbroken: I must have the goal by X and fail. And so like this concept about ending generational trauma, it's in my lifetime, if I live to 102, I know that exponentially and from a compounding perspective, like it will continue to carry on. And it may be another thousand years before my vision comes to fruition, but I'm planting all the seeds now for trees that I will never sit under.
[00:37:42] Michael Unbroken: And I, I think the last one. So you have huge goals, remove time, and then number three is just valiant effort. Just show up. Stop being in your own damn way all the time. It's gonna be hard, and when it gets hard it's gonna get harder. But what's [00:38:00] interesting is the new levels of hard are actually not as difficult as the previous levels of hard because you now have more experience to support that.
[00:38:07] Michael Unbroken: You can navigate the difficulty. And what really starts to happen is you're just reframing who it is that you are in light of the challenge in front of you by leveraging the experiences that you've had previously that prove that you're capable of doing hard shit. And so if you're willing to do those three things, you will exponentially leap and change everything in your spectrum, both genetically and energetically, and quantum and perpetuity, and reciprocity.
[00:38:35] Michael Unbroken: And it's like if you're willing to just show the fuck up for your life and go chase your dreams, things will be good. It.
[00:38:41] Bethany: I'm being called to share one thing. Are you familiar with David R. Hawkins? His.
[00:38:44] Michael Unbroken: No, never heard of him.
[00:38:46] Bethany: It's the path to surrender or the power versus for force. He has this whole scale of consciousness and the thing is, is at the level of 500, the vibration. So sometimes, a lot of times with my clients I'll tune in, but at the level of love, when you're in the energy [00:39:00] of love, you're actually elevating and supporting 750,000 people around you.
[00:39:04] Bethany: I don't know how we prove that, but I do get it as truth. So it's just really beautiful. 'cause just you being, you, . In that juicy love and bring it back to the ballerina. And like all the colorful flowers that I saw on the new pathway which is really just honoring the feminine side of you really elevates the planet.
[00:39:22] Bethany: That's, what do you think of the ballerina?
[00:39:25] Michael Unbroken: Black Swan came to mind the film, the Arlosky film. And so ballerinas also have some evil in them. That's what came to mind.
[00:39:33] Bethany: I've never seen that. I couldn't
[00:39:35] Michael Unbroken: Oh my God, you should.
[00:39:36] Bethany: I felt like it was too
[00:39:38] Michael Unbroken: It is scary. You should watch it. You need to challenge yourself.
[00:39:41] Bethany: Oh man. Okay. Okay, thanks coach. I'll it to the list.
[00:39:47] Michael Unbroken: please do. I expect a full report
[00:39:50] Bethany: Well this has been fun.
[00:39:51] Bethany Londyn: Thank you so much for listening to today's episode.
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